It would likely be more meaningful. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Actually bought a second one. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. George have you tried a different ammo brand? Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Sleek design, totally snag proof. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. Just like Fords. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Also LCP. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. This gun is selling better than ever years later. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. And just recently bought my Third Pico. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. Look at the back of the slide. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. You can get these on line at times for I appreciate the review. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Shoot to make the thug dead. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Why people follow them is a mystery. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Only time I tried one I did not like it. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! I really wanted to like the gun. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! Nicer than the price would indicate. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? The Pico is top notch. You really missed this one. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. No thanks. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. Did they succeed? Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. They never protected their early designs/. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. And for sure never shot one. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. I shoot pocket guns all the time. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! I put the new glock style slide release on mine and it is a little slimmer now. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly 8===D~. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. You must not even be able to read. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. the fact you just dont like it? How is the pot metal Cobra #2? Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. Get real. I fell for the Pico hype. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. You sound smart. He says it is a blunder. From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. Quick Summary: Our Top Picks For 5 Best .380 Pistols in 2022 1. Its not. WebBeretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. Hellcat 380. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Totally agree. I like its feel in my hand. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. Its tight, even well after break-in. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. I just dont see the silent u in that. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. The .380 pistol which has the least recoil? Above, a Ruger, below a Browning 1911380 Without even looking at their spec sheets, we can guess that I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. Trigger sucked. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. Id never heard of the site; wanted to check it out to see how much I want to buy the article at face value. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. No problem with the SCCY at all. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. Funny. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Wrong about sccy. The sccy is very similar. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. I have a SCCY too. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Guess what? 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