I would put the blame on Chris! Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. It just seems to me that Bella would actually have had to swallow the oil to get it into her stomach. Lack of defensive injuries. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. Areas of bruising, external. Watts was no genius, by saying he saw her kill CeCe and giving such a short timeframe for their killings, he left it wide open that they could have been saved had he called 911 or administered CPR instead of murdering his pregnant wife. None of that is going to me made public, for obvious reasons. Police reportsA photo of one of the girls. I did mention that Shanann was still in love with him and wanted a child with, and wanted to work on their marriage right up until the moment of her death. Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. Mommys earned this. It seems likely she even planned to use her pregnancy and 3rd child in service to her MLM addiction see https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/. Mucho menos que estaba enferma. He did something to immobilize or pin down her arms. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. Like a scene from Friday the 13th. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. Shanann Watts Cause of Death: How Did the Colorado Mother Die? There was no oil in Ceces stomach. @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. I believe it was to make her feel more at ease, able to sleep instead of up all night crying. Remember that Chris was sleeping in the basement at this time so they werent sharing a bed. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? When asked if they were going to find any marks on her during his confession he said I dont think so and when asked why he said it was because she didnt fight back because I was in such a rage Tell me how that makes any sense at all? Once into the oil she gulped in the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge and died as a result of this as well as being unconscious. Throw it away? They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. In his story he goes downstairs & hears commotion goes into the bedroom & sees Bella on her bed with covers off & then Shannan on top of CeCe. Shes not going to carry her suitcase up the stairs because of her pregnant state, and she wasnt feeling well. I also believe Shanann was also sleeping when the attack occurred which could explain her lack of putting up a fight. Simply stated, you are an ignorant human being, Badmouthing the vicitm like that when she can not defend herself. I think he killed the girls at the worksite. Watts buried Shannan's body in a shallow grave and dumped his daughters' bodies into an oil tank at the oil and gas exploration site where he worked in Frederick, Colorado, US. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? The reports also show that Shananns fetus had been expelled from her body, which was buried in a shallow grave. Also, in the 2-4 minutes it took him to kill Shannan, this father who would never hurt his kids, never looked at the visible baby bump and thought Im killing the baby too, I need to stop. https://jcp.bmj.com/content/54/5/348, This is why Shanann had no defensive injuries, and this technique would account for everything in her autopsy, from blood alcohol/ethanol levels to an unbroken hyoid bone I am not sure that he planned the murders. Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. Why would she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom and then put the tots right into full-time daycare? The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. 3. Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Its horrible. I am new to this case, a couple of months of watching/listening to your videos Nick, and I am now working my way through your books. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. You may say murder itself is cowardice, but if youre the murderer, youre taking a huge risk, and if youre an introverted murderer, youre being your version of brave by physically confronting and attacking someone. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. False nails like ShanAnn was so fond of wearing dont scratch skin as effectively as natural nails do they arent as sharp. Thanks for the paper, ganana Im with you on this. But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? It was already reported that Shannan evacuated her bowels when dying and that is why he took the sheet off, He told police that. I also have seen that neighbors vid of the loading of truck & see a female in video helping him load up , and even a small luve figure of a child. Dont forget, she is pregnant. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? This was the 6th MLM that ShanAnn had been involved in she was apparently a MLM junkie. I have no insight? With her like this would the conspiracy theory about her killing not happening until Tues or Wed not be possible? I was in Colorado in the area on vacation the week this happened last August and the whole thing is sickening and deeply troubling to me. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. Hello everyone, As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. Chriss demeanor was nonchalant. The autopsy also made no references to elevated levels of any Thrive-related chemicals. I dont think enough people are looking at the theory that Chris had flipped a switch with her in the days leading to her death. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. Back? She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. Or putting her down. It takes 4 5 hours for a stomach to empty after eating. Im convinced that he did the same to Shanann. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. It drives me batty to see little Cece kick her legs in joy in the videos and to know they were stopped forever. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. Not as bright. I am of the opinion that: Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was forced brutally into the oil tank, and her injuries were sustained during this push. It makes the crime even more heinous in my mind because it would have required a lot of thought concerning the logistics. Good to have a former forensic detective around. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? Like you, I was suspicious about the DAs assessment. They are finger prints from his hands. How was she with her phone? Shannan did not have any marks on her face indicative of a punch, slap, or anything at all. When it was revealed yesterday that the children had been smothered, I assumed a pillow was used, especially since it would cover their faces and provide emotional distance for Chris while murdering his own children. I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. She wouldnt have gone to bed without her phone. Areas of bruising, internal. That seems to have been nothing but getting manicures, shopping, and making videos. Correct. They were smothered. I think despite her bravado, she had insecurities just like everyone else, with both herself, and her roles as wife and mother AND someone working in an MLM. RIP Angels. Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. Stranglehold Theory. I agree with you Jessica Was Niko Buried With Shan'ann Watts? @Lisa if shed already died she would have not been engaged in the act of strangling her like he said. YES! Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely?. He woke up at 5 a.m. to get ready for work, and they began talking about separating. Lo que ese animal hizo estuvo todo en su sano juicio, los borrachos dicen que hacen cosas indebidas por estar ebrios pero, este definitivamente es satans. In theory, you should find some evidence, which did not find. After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. People with OCD can have obsessions related to a wide variety of things, including losing control, hurting others, unwanted sexual thoughts, and many more. Now remember this would be AFTER strangling Shannan carrying her to their room & putting her in bed, so at least 5 minutes and since it would have taken about 4 minutes for CeCe to die 9 minutes had passed supposedly since Shannan had been in her room. I know plenty of women who wear their bras to sleep, myself included. The autopsy report details her cause of death and injuries. And of course she loved her children, and she was a great mom. Police saw a bed sheet. He had strangled me while I was pinned down to the floor, face up. In terms of your comments about respect, you clearly have no respect for my work. Chris Watts destroyed three fully formed, perfect adults. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . Was Shanann ever clinically diagnosed with OCD by a physician or a psychiatrist? Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to manual strangulation by another individual. Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. I believe those stains were on the sheets and thats why they were pulled off. But I am of course hoping that she was totally unaware in her unconsciousness. He failed all 3 questions. Makes me so sick. I wouldnt throw that out the window. Chris Watts is the subject of a new Netflix series called American Murder: The Family Next Door. The two girls were found in oil drums. There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing was a spur-of-the-moment crime of passion and didn't admit to planning it. Therefore your theory is not valid. At least I would have. Quick as law enforcement were to respond to the crime, by the time they recovered the remains of the two little girls, they had been chemical altered beyond recognition. I dont think I know everything, but I do know more about this case than most. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. Some people believe his story that Shannan killed the kids like he said. Unless you count her phone. Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. So Shananns OCD personality stopped that night? yes, that is great, there is no mention at all that there was any of the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge that was in Bellas stomach, thankyou for pointing that out Nick. In the new clip, the cold-hearted killer is wearing t-shirt, shorts and flip flops as officers secure. So yeah sigh! The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the Remember, she was pregnant. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. Police reportsThe oil drums where the bodies were found. Those were my kids. He claimed he saw Shanann on top of Cece and that they were blue. He said he lost it and choked Shanann. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. If they were pliable makes me wonder if they were not deceased that long before he was able to shove them into the tanks. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. This dog did not find any place of interest (both seemed to be keen on searching by the basement bed) You see any documents with that diagnosis? No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. So if his parents are doing interviews and book deals, he gets it honest I reckon. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. How do you or any of us know what her last words to Chris were? (this is horrific and the worst thing in the whole case, in my opinion). I was writing in a passion. Amy thoughts on her? Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. But from Molletts work, it seems the alcohol levels in Shananns body were normal. Shannann even said that he was like another person. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. Pee and Poo As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. How would you have reacted in her situation? I guess since theyre children and small its possible. Lastly, he lies constantly to the police, why is this self serving story all of the sudden believable? Remember Nickols son found her cell phone in-between the cushions of the upstairs couch. I found nothing unusual with that part. of OCD triggers and symptoms. And then you test it in various scenarios. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. Shanann Watts' husband, Chris Watts allegedly confesses to murder The Colorado Bureau of Investigation reported that three-year-old Celeste Watts and four-year-old Bella Watts are also dead along with mom Shanann. FACT: Chris said he forgot the phone. Have they watched something? 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