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One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. They tried to help him. Hes just not a self-promoter. Heres the important point. There was a time when they were so glib and articulate, it really was like being around the Marx Brothers or something. Really hurts some guys. In a world of headlines, this is going to be a big one. But it's wonderful to be in a band, if I have to leave somebody with a thought: it's wonderful to be in a band, even if it's just for a short period of time. So I think that a lot of people made their best work when they were hungry 'cause they had to. We talked about how you deal with the external circumstances changing, but what about internally? You first encounter Petty as a fan and then, youre in this rock band, the Del Fuegos, and opening up for these guys. I first met you around 1978, and the thing that's really struck me is that basically you've remained the same person all that time. Even in the second grade, it was like, the nice way of putting it on the report card: "He seems to be a leader!" Lynchs portion of the tour was slated to kick off April 23 in Boulder, Colorado, so he had plenty of time to prepare. It has a special vibe when its just the two of you. And so we started closing the show with it. He didnt want it to be authorized because he felt like authorized meant bull-, says Warren Zanes, whose Petty: The Biography arrives next month. In addition to academic papers on rock, he wrote the 33 and 1/3 book on Dusty Springfields album Dusty in Memphis. Around 2000, he stopped listening to new musicexcept for Tom Petty. ), Drummer Talk 271 Agents and Managers 301, Recycled Percussion to perform in Super Bowl Pre-Show, Semisonic Drummer Slips on Ice, Breaks Hand. They preferred the punkier numbers, like Even the Losers and Refugee, to the Byrds-ier T.P. (The Del Fuegos lasted for one more album before disbanding; Dan Zanes went on to be a fixture on the childrens-music scene.) Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing Now, people know you gotta own your own publishing - we didn't know! Warren became vice-president of educational programs for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Ok, here's another attempt to post my Stan Lynch interview. I park and go to the lounge outside his studio. Stan: He taught me a lot, sometimes in very abstract ways. I'm Bihter. Sojust pick a time. My cat could have a record deal! I favor Petty. His last words to me where, I heard you, man. No, I don't sign autographs," that kind of shit. And it hasn't taken me very seriously. We hit a really sweet harmony, says Campbell. He is from OH. My ride is like, I want to be around the best, coolest musicians that will have me! [laughter] That's a totally appropriate description of my career at times! We all know who the super managers are, we know who the good labels are. Now theres a book in itself.. If you listen to the old records, Stan and I are pushing, were locked, and lot of times were driving the songs. Another intense moment in the show is Southern Accents. Midway through the tour, Campbell changed the lyrics from Theres a dream I keep having where my mama comes to me/And kneels over by the window and says a prayer for me to Theres a dream I keep having where my brother comes to me Its a change of just one word, but its had a profound impact on the crowd. I just couldnt look at it. So it helps you to step back and maintain that perspective. Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. He remembered me from the tours. She was having a moment. He didnt like the record. And I thought, Okay well, youre being paid like its main gig. I had a feeling that the dough was the only reason he hadnt walked off yet.. Now which one is it? And that's why I smile, usually, 'cause I realize I was given the.the troll said you can pass! Video unavailable And I couldnt wait for it to end, he said, sipping his coffee. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. The next incarnation. I don't know, I can only speak from my own experience. I knew that there was the capacity within that group to push boundaries, he says. A lot of people in this business seem to forget why they wanted to be there in the first place, their values really change a lot. I remember when the other guys I was working with would say, "We're only making 300 a week!" Jimmy Iovine is known to have obsessed over the drum sound in Pettys 1979 album Damn the Torpedos, which Iovine produced, and Lynch became the object of his frustration. He's like, cool looking, great bass playing, beautiful soul nothing burned him! The behind-the-scenes look at my books, from research adventures to promotion gambles. If a band leader had any energy left over to encourage others, they could, and it's good to include people. [laughs], But I'll bet you're glad you stayed that way.I think it's the only wayto thine own self be true [laughs]. You tell the person that you love, if you love them - or if you need them, maybe you have a symbiotic relationship where if they die, you die, career-wise - you tell them, "Look man, I know right from wrong, and this what you're doing is wrong. There are times I wish that Petty was more of a self-promoter if only so that his songs could travel a little more widely. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. I've heard talk about taking the best of the 1997 Fillmore. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. Its felt really nice to get my friend back., They finally met up a few months ago at Campbells Los Angeles home studio he calls Knobville. ', Editors picks Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song Stop Draggin My Heart Around, which Petty did with Stevie Nicks. . Because my nature was to be there 20 minutes early with fuckin' bells on! The Del Fuegos were originally an Oberlin band that Dan Zanes, Warrens older brother, started with some college friends; Warren joined after Andover. His aunt hounds him for autographs at funerals. Percussion group Recycled Percussion has a unique, In the early hours of Friday, January 13, Dave had his, LA Weekly just released an article detailing Gadd and, 2 sold-out Twin Cities shows have been called off, Jazz and fusion drummer Alphonse Mouzon died on Sunday. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. John needs Paul. We want to hear it. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. If you're in it to make as much money as possible, that's a question you would really have to consider. Youll know it when you know it. Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. No, he goes out and plays the songs that he wrote. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. He admitted acting wrong and didnt communicate with his bandmates properly. He hopes hell get another chance to play with Campbell in the future, but he says hes ready for whatever happens. It's really nothing to have a record deal now, it doesn't mean anything. It must be tougher to hang onto the premise of artistic integrity in that situation.Well, conversely, it's a thrill to know that you've had some success. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. During his tenure as a Heartbreaker, Lynch became intimately familiar with both the ups and the downs of working in a rock band. The band loudly declared their love for Petty at their shows. Lynch contributed to the bands first eight albums, and he served as the bands original drummer for two decades until he decided to leave in 1994. And he's also one of the biggest displays of the pitfalls from beyond success: drug addiction, overindulgence, friends that aren't friendsthe peripheral players that just kill you, they bleed you. We want to hear it. I wouldnt want to cheapen it or do a watered-down version., Theres been talks of a one-off tribute show where the Heartbreakers would play with guest singers, but Campbell says he cant even envision that. When youve worked with bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,Aretha Franklin, Stevie Nicks andthe Eagles, its not a strange thing to be interviewed. Youre at Pettys house at a Christmas party. You learn them. I'm not on Mount Rushmore and I don't think I should be! ', When he heard about Pettys death in 2017, Lynch says he was shocked, but not completely surprised. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. Then Covid Trapped Them There. It's very incredible. The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame drummer-turned-successful songwriter/producer (for Don Henley, The Eagles, The Mavericks, Ringo Starr, and Tim McGraw, among others) and tree farmer (a gig he describes as part Zen, part holding on for dear life, and not unlike playing with Bob Dylan) is an opinionated, intelligent guy who doesnt mince words or sugarcoat memories. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakershad been off the road for nearly a year when the 1994 Bridge School Benefit came around. Date:circa 2000Interviewer: Lee FlierInterviewee: Stan LynchNotes: I found this when browsing an old capture of MusicPlayer.com from the Wayback Machine. So it helps you to get your own inspiration back to be able to really learn to listen to somebody else.Yeah, because usually musicians don't listen, they just critique. But the fact that these guys hung out with me for so fuckin' long is like - oh my God! If anyone is going to think heroin is an option because they know my story of using heroin, I cant do this. And I just had to work with him and say, I think youre going to come off as a cautionary tale rather than a romantic tale. But I wanted to show that Tom Petty is a man who lived the bulk of his life in the album cycle. It's two immovable objects that hit each other at 100 miles an hour, what is gonna happen? It's like, Mick needs Keith. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Yeah, you tank. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. 79.6 KB Views: 141. I just couldnt. Its become a very special moment and the crowd picked up on the love between us.. Completely separate from all that, of course, is the fact that Stan Lynch really is an extremely great drummer. I didn't know; I was so unsophisticated. I never knew how it got there, but it sure wasnt left over from the night before. Other guys, it looks like they went to business school to be rock stars. But at the same time, that's why I sorta go back to my original assessment, some bands that last 10 minutes, it's 10 minutes too long. There was a lot of things that were not said that should have been said, he says. And so when they became, quote, rock stars they thought they were better than other people. I had to hit myself in the face with one of those lights; when you wake up, you wont remember you were ever in a band. When you've worked with bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Nicks and the Eagles, it's not a strange thing to be interviewed. . And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. I had gotten the phone call signifying one part of my life was over. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. ), Looking back at that intense time all these years later, Lynch says he wishes hed handled the situation a bit differently. I love the scale of life here I always have, drummer Stan Lynch told the crowd of about 80 people listening attentively in plastic folding chairs. But we had a quiet moment at the rehearsals. And then we got together when we were old fucks and we played some clubs. I would have never bet on that.. Attachments. If you still have to prove something to others other than yourself. Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. As a drummer, he's all about paradox and contrast: an irresistible blending of Charlie Watts' solid understatement with John Bonham's raw go-for-the-throat power, either of which might turn and rear its head within a single verse. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. He takes a Sharpie and signs it for me for every Beatle and hands it back to me. Theres more to this interview! Is it better to take time off, or work through it until it comes back, or?Call a friend. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time Photograph by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns/Getty. His only encounter with Petty in the years that followed took place in 2002 at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, and the only communication he can recall from guitarist Mike Campbell in the two decades since that night was a brief phone call in 2017 shortly after Petty died. I imagine it's him saying, "You know, I'm only gonna put the best shit on my songI don't want one of these to die; they're hard to come by.". By submitting, you agree to receive communications (emails & texts) from Modern Drummer. And he was dissing Stan Lynch for being behind the beat. We had recorded some of the songs with Stan (Lynch, the Heartbreakers' drummer through the mid-'90s) at Mike (Campbell)'s house. srlynch@stanford.edu. Thats when it fell apart with Stan., The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with his first solo album. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. And yelling and protesting. I get it. Then today, as soon as his tour bus hit Philadelphia, it all began again with three more. . The tension that followed played a significant role in his ultimate departure from the band. So that guy who is hellbent on keeping things together, because that is who he is, keeps his band together. . The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. You don't need to try so hard - boy, you wasted a lot of energy trying to be loved by everybody, and the bottom line is that wasn't what was important. He had signed with Zildjian by the time of this MD interview, but he used Paiste 2002s on Damn The Torpedoes. Great rock'n'roll is not usually made by democracy - that's the truth. If you know right from wrong, you speak up. But one of you is gonna change, because you can't coexist in those two different universes. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. It still blows my mind that that shit that I remember cutting like it was last week is still somehowviewed asREAL! That was 30 years ago. It's like, for me, "Thank God Tom sold a lot of records 'cause now I can enjoy making music!". The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. And at the beginning of that second day, it began with Stan asking, Do you mind if I lie on the couch. I was lucky enough to be the guy taping it when he let a lot of that stuff out. He wrote songs, they recorded those songs, they put a record together with artwork, they released it, and they went out on the road to support it. They get busy trying to control the story. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. Sometimes I would hear stuff and it was just so sad. In a recent interview, Lynch recalled some of his most memorable experiences, including his 2002 . I had to remind myself that I was full-grown man. The eleven-year-old who first heard Breakdown was always close. If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. Tensions were thick backstage at the Bridge School Benefit, but the Heartbreakers still delivered an incredibly moving acoustic set featuring You Dont Know How It Feels, I Wont Back Down, Free Fallin' and, appropriately enough, Time To Move On. Heres a gorgeous rendition of Learning To Fly. Nobody knew it at the time, but it was Lynchs final gig with the band. Again, in his own way. ', But when he went to speak, he found himself tentatively agreeing to the plan. And I was poised to do that. That's God's little way of telling you to collaborate. Because the problem is when you're young, it's make or break. I didn't know that there were good and bad ways to make it. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. I'm not overly celebrated; I feel like I was given just the right amount of notoriety that I could handle. So he tells me hes taking me to a Bob Marley & The Wailers gig, and he flips me the keys to his Ferrari. Lets get right to this. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. But we dont mind our heroes being human. I kneeled down, took her hand, and I went, Its going to be OK. I think its a bit of healing and closure for people to revisit that feeling and revisit Tom in a positive way., Playing Pettys music night after night has also given Lynch the opportunity to grieve for his friend. And he died soon after. "We have the same musical pulse we always had," says Campbell of hitting the road with his old Tom Petty bandmate after decades of estrangement. Call somebody you respect. [laughter] I mean, I know that. I can't worry about that - it would be so pathetic! I could have been more applied as an artist earlier, you know, I could have made more of a statement for myself. The old, art commerce divide where people go, oh, its too commercial. The other thing, I was just talking to somebody who was watching a live Tom Petty concert on a computer, no between-song banter. If I had a record label, I'd sign him. When I heard what happened, it put me right down on my knees, literally. Born. That was another experience for me, says Lynch. It was an exhilarating ride, but there were frequent creative and personal tensions between Petty and the outspoken drummer that eventually led to Lynch's departure from the band after 19 years. As Petty embarked on his next solo effort, Wildflowers, he knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to let Lynch play on the record, drafting session musician Steve Ferrone for most of the tracks.Though Petty was content to play most of the record without Lynch, his label insisted on having a greatest-hits record led to the original Heartbreakers reuniting for the song 'Mary Jane's Last . In other words, he won't shut up! At 45, Stan Lynch appears to be comfortably making the transition from archetypal wild rock drummer to trusted elder statesman - all the while retaining the same enthusiasm that made him stand out as a drummer, showing a keen interest in helping young artists through the struggles of building a career. Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. That's when it fell apart with Stan." The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with. Occupation. He left the band in 1994 due to personal differences with Petty. It hurts me to see somebody in that much pain, I really internalize it, it bothers me! Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. (For a detailed account of this saga, check out Warren Zanes definitive book Petty: The Biography. We played with X, we played with Gun Club, but we never stopped loving Tom Petty, Zanes said. Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. Come and get it!" And our bass player Crawdaddy [Lance Morrison] said, You should play that song together in the show. I really tried to put on the school tie, man, I tried like hell for the last five years. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. Id rather hear the old songs with the real singer.. The drummer realized after some point that he didnt want to be in the band anymore due to the personal and musical differences he had with Tom Petty. But I really had to let go of it or else I would walk around constantly trying to tell people who I used to be. And - no, I shouldn't! Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. Id hear that he was auditioning for another group. I wish somebody had told me that. So we're even! Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. Many of whom we had strong feelings for. Great guy! Then youre at this party and you hear rumblings that George Harrison is in the building. This was unsettling for everyone in the group besides Campbell, who worked extensively on the album, but Lynch voiced his objections the loudest. But other times I've been in a room where you just strike an E chord and the guy starts singing. In Lynchs mind, it was a Heartbreakers song. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Paper, rock, scissors!". Zanes also had access to the Heartbreakers. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. So the core values are that I'm really comfortable with it, and I always was. And therefore if I'm gonna sell I have to play to the means. I don't get the angst. It wasn't a valid thing, there was no business to back me up on that. Pettys also addicted, and he gets to work his way out of his. Drummer Talk 273 So you want to MD! There are a lot of producers and labels that actually do that.I'm sure they do! It was really my only ticket to ride, that was it. It works really well with him. Now, what records should I produce that will sell to them?" The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. Dan Baird and Stan Lynch Team Up for New LP: Interview Matt Wardlaw Published: July 16, 2020 The Chefs Don't let the name of the new project by ex- Georgia Satellites frontman Dan Baird and. The idea for a new unauthorized Tom Petty biography came from a surprising source: Tom Petty. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" Its a moment in which these guys, no matter how corny it might sound, they were kind of falling in love with each other. I had a kit in my house, and I had to take it away. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. And I watched really excited people get more excited, and it was just a big amplifier. The 50 Worst Decisions in Music History Double Platinum Supporting Member. Its not just because you need the band to make the music. He then joined Eagles for 'Hell Freezes Over' and went on tour with. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. I would sayyou have a lot of energy, young man! How was it working with an established guy like Denny Cordell [Leon Russell, Joe Cocker, Procol Harum] so early on? My music life especially has always felt very cartoonish! When he gets into a rock band, thats like the second chance to have a family. Its because hes trying to succeed at something that his own family failed at, sometimes dramatically. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. Thus, the rocker said he has tons of regrets regarding his time with the band. So I'd say on the way to success: doubt. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. There sat the fantastic coffee. I didnt talk to the Bogdanovich people, Lynch says. . I couldn't believe that I was the odd man out. Stan Lynch joined Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers in 1974 when Petty's piano player Benmont Tench recruited him. We're a rock band! As were driving, hes making me haul ass, and he says, Stanley, driving a Ferrari fast, thats what a groove feels like. At the gig, Marley had the place hypnotized. That's when you've hit the real essence of collaboration, where you know you've found your partner. Apart from the enduring work he crafted with the Heartbreakers, Lynch's stage and studio credits as a drummer also include the likes of Bob Dylan, Don Henley, Aretha Franklin, The Eurythmics, Roger McGuinn, Stevie Nicks, Del Shannon, T-Bone Burnett, and Warren Zevon. I was on my fuckin knees, staring at the sky. With $100 in his pocket, Stan Lynch drove his dad's VW bus from Florida across country to L.A. in 1974. It there something hypocritical about it? If you, at 45 now, were to run into yourself at 20, what advice would you give to yourself?Whew! Petty was our guy. University - Staff Department: Chemistry Position: Science & Engineering Assoc (650) 725-0245 (office) Additional Info . The other obvious question. But hes never really opened up about his split with Petty and the band. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. Now what? You know? But I don't know if you've jumped through enough hoops and had enough discipline to make a record worth listening to unless you are Jimi Hendrix. You know, I probably squandered a lot of good time. Guys at that level of success, I think they meet fewer people where they think, this could be a friendship. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. And there was always great coffee. 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